OAL - Olaria de Alcobaça - (Portugal)

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Post by Joel Paiva Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:24 am

Can someone help me ID this vase please? There's nothing on the base. it has 26cm tall by 17 cm diameter on the large part. Thank you.

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Post by NaomiM Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:33 am

Even though there's "there's nothing on the base" we still need to see a photo of it, to rule out other things with nothing on the base.

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Post by NaomiM Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:34 am

I suspect it's made local to you - ie, Portugal - or Italy.

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Post by Joel Paiva Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:15 am

ok Naomi, here it is a photo of the base. Is White and have an "F" or other mark that i don't know... perhaps just a fabrication scratch. Any idea?
thanks

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Post by NaomiM Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:59 am

The F is probably a decorator's mark. 
Seems to be made of the soft white clay that's typical of Spanish, Italian and Portuguese pieces.

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Post by R.Ferrao Mon Jun 17, 2013 9:02 am

Hi,

I think this vase is portuguese. From the same factory as this set:

OAL - Olaria de Alcobaça - (Portugal) 6210

Decorated with ceramic pencil and no marks on the base.
Still a mystery to me Shrugs
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Post by Joel Paiva Mon Jun 17, 2013 9:48 am

Hi Rita. Maybe i found it!!!!Clap.
Let me ask you something: Secla always marked their pieces?
If not, maybe is Secla.
See this: 
The advertiser don´t show a picture from the base, but i saw one of this pitchers with glasses marked secla on the base before, as a small cruet with the same stripes marked "foreign" at it seems secla indeed


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Post by R.Ferrao Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:12 am

No Joel, these pieces are not Secla.
Secla never used this type of ceramic pencil decoration.
They only used painted stripes.

(the OLX listing is not accurate, the seller is trying to pass it as Secla.)
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Post by Joel Paiva Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:50 am

I could swear i saw one of this set, with this pencil stripes decoration, marked secla on the base. I saw it more or less 4 month ago in an small antique shop, on a cellar, in front of jardim da parada in Campo de Ourique. And they're not painted stripes!!!
I'm very, very stubborn Rita... sometimes i think i shouldn't have been born. Frustrated
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Post by R.Ferrao Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:56 am

Well, we must find that set then Happy

Maybe it still is in Campo de Ourique.
I know that feeling of stubbornness Embarrassed
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Post by R.Ferrao Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:55 am

Cá está Joel!!!
It's not Secla, but OAL - Olaria de Alcobaca.

E não te ponhas a discutir comigo no Facebook Big Laughter
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